Does It Take One to Treat One?

ghhj says:

March 4, 2014 at 11:58 pm

Carrying the message is for helping yourself, the message is how it helped
you and whatt you did.

ghhj says:

March 5, 2014 at 12:40 am

If it works for millions of people why not try and help peole with what
worked for them?

blasphemer1981 says:

March 5, 2014 at 1:07 am

I used to go to NA meetings for years and it doesn’t matter. I still used
if I wanted to. Now that I no longer go only a few of my so called friends
from the program talk to me. It’s almost like a cult. More like a bunch of
bullshit.

99motleycrue says:

March 5, 2014 at 1:16 am

Hmmm this Gray Cup Day (Canadian) will be my 22nd anniversary of quitting
alcohol, no rehab, no 12 Steps .. you mean I did it all wrong after all
these years? … think I’ll have a drink so I can join the cult of A.A.
…. there you go all you Ph.D’s …. YESSS !!!!

pjbergin says:

March 5, 2014 at 1:37 am

Because it doesn’t work for millions of people.

BlatzBeer says:

March 5, 2014 at 1:39 am

@psychechange …”the prognosis before AA for alcoholics was grim.” Oh?
Says who? That’s a line that AAer’s like to repeat ad nauseum without
citing any statistics whatsoever. I agree with Jack Trimpey: people have
been overcoming self-defeating behavior, including substance abuse, for
thousands of years. And it’s a common occurrence. My evidence? Family
members who have kicked severe alcohol abuse and dependence–before AA even
existed.

telethon123 says:

March 5, 2014 at 2:29 am

codependency noun excessive emotional or psychological reliance on a
partner, typically a partner who requires support due to an illness or
addiction. I’d say NEEDING someone else for one’s sobriety qualifies as
excessive. We should offer support, not foster more dependence.

raby760 says:

March 5, 2014 at 3:08 am

Not promoting which is good. Unfortunately for our society, our government
requires that people with DUIs to go to AA and this isn’t the best method
for 90% of the people. Therefore, it’s our government which is Christian
biased that promotes the AA method. This is not fair and is very unjust.
But if you are the 10% that finds that program useful, then the more power
to you.

psychechange says:

March 5, 2014 at 3:49 am

AA is not perfect because people are not perfect. With a background in
psychology and qualified both in addiction counselling, and therapeutic
counselling I know the the prognosis before AA for alcoholics was grim. Its
easy to down play a fellowship like AA now but it gave alcoholics a chance
that did not exist before that. People also reject Freud and his theories
today too but without him there would be no counselling and psychotherapy
and lots of people suffering in silence. Short Memories

spiraldarkseraphim says:

March 5, 2014 at 4:10 am

Militant Islam “works” for millions of people. Evangelical Christianity
“works” for millions of people. What we mean by “works” ? That it helps
those people to stay sober? My sister stays away from crack cocaine
partially because she loves animals and houses a large number of them. She
doesn’t attend 12 step groups. I know other people who stay stay away from
their former drugs of over-use simply by willpower.

quickcap says:

March 5, 2014 at 5:08 am

AA began when 2 drunks met and realized they needed eachother to stay
sober. It is the enduring spirit of AA. One drunk helping another. We
“carry the message” by helping – not by promoting.

ghhj says:

March 5, 2014 at 5:33 am

go to a convention and see the thousands it is working for and just about
every person there knows hundreds it has and is working for, thats proof
enough. works for me and that’s good enough for me.